Hear Patrick McNeil, the HMWT living rivers champion for the upper Lea and also Wheathampstead Parish Council Ranger for the Meads telling Amanda Yorwerth how he's been working with a great team of volunteers to use traditional methods to improve the Lea for wildlife and people.

Plus, John Horsfield of Save Butterfly World explains how they're on the look out for a new home, and about From Penguins to Pollinators, the event they have planned for this April's Sustainable St.Albans Week.